Sorry, AND this website is affiliated with someone who SHOOTS elephants for fun??? http://www.ringlingbeatsanimals.com/bound-babies.asp The plaintiffs claimed that they had purchased tickets to see the movie relying on representations by Have Trunk Will Travel and the Johnsons that they humanely care for the film’s star elephant, Tai. Your immature attitude came across loud and clear. What marketing strategies does Havetrunkwilltravel use? This is an unofficial fan site for Water for Elephants movie for entertainment purposes only. To have to defend against these types of allegations is disheartening, especially when the publicity from the movie drew such strong support for elephant conservation and research projects”. Did you read the Ringling Bros. elephant trainer’s story about what happens to these elephants behind closed doors? Thanks for you feedback NA…and everyone…your a good group here…I can see that:-). I picketed in Tucson and PHoenix last year before each show by Ringling Bros. It’s an issue that’s only grown closer to my heart in the years since. They had many other opportunities to expose the situation, Tai participated in media events and many other films before, such as music videos with Britney Spears, commercials with Ellen Degeneres, participations on famous celebrities birthdays and they never made any complaint. It breaks my heart to see elephants abused in this way. However, in several comments she made, naturaladdict said it for me. If she’s running this fansite out of the goodness of her heart only and not paid by Fox to do it, then I would stand corrected. They had other plans, but when they kept hearing the constant platitudes about how Tai was treated so well and only did these tricks out of love…well that became a little much. Shut the disgusting establishment down and set those poor animals free. Its choppy at parts and some of the noises you here are dogs not elephants. What are you even talking about? WFE is NOT rated #1 at the box office and was NEVER #1 at the box office in ANY market. Generally when these videos are shot it is by someone who goes “undercover” , working for the organization while secretly documenting what goes on there. explain that one. I can’t believe that they waited until now because they had a motive. No copyright infringement is intended. Once and for all. The elephants are their bread and butter. You have too much time on your hands. WFE has a beautiful message and here’s hoping we do something with it. This is similar to the way all elephants are trained. Now go in your corner and pout some more about it…. Sad sad people. In the film Rosie, played by Tai, is brutally attacked by the circus owner who beats her with a bull hook. Just in case you think this is a isolated incidences, all circus elephants are abused to train them, that is the only way they can control this huge animal. If they are, and HWTW thinks they are humane, tell us why. Pingback: Once upon an elephant in Pasadena: Considering the treatment of animals « Pasadena Art Beat, I would caution those that have strong opinions regarding HTWT to temper them until you know first hand about the facility, the elephants and the people involved. True fans and friends of this site will defend these young ladies, Robert and Tai’s family if need be. It is also pathetic how they train the poor baby elephants who are ripped away from them mothers while they are still suckling. humans.. why cant we just leave other animals in their natural habitad where they belong? If she was mistreated, the production would never have gotten the Humane stamp of approval and I seriously doubt the stars, who were animal lovers themselves, would have stood for it. I’m not gonna defend that people hurting the animals, but you’re just as guilty as them for not doing anything IN 6 YEARS!!!! It does happen…and that is a major safety issue for me too….I don’t want to see anyone injured or an animal being shot because of the life endured off the set. A picture speaks a thousand words and a video leaves no doubts. This is not the forum to spew your hate. Tai’s celebrity and the popularity of the movie seem to be the motivation for the extremist groups to garner publicity for themselves and their cause. Shame on you all for abusing these wonderful elephants. Use your anger in the right places & donate to stop abuse. Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) That’s why most of these videos lack content regarding identity and their reason for being there. Why they are only interested in boycotting the movie? Just because it doesn’t look any worse than the taunting you see at a circus doesn’t make it ok. Animals shouldn’t be used in entertainment. Please advise if you own something seen on this site (proof of ownership needs to be supplied) and would like it removed by contacting waterforelephantsfilm [at] gmail [dot] com. And, despite their claims of loving them and treating them so well, what is it that Mr. and Mrs. Peter Stroud, former curator of elephants at Melbourne Zoo, has said there was little doubt Tai has been subjected to cruel training methods at some point: “Getting an elephant to do what it’s told really requires the elephant to be dominated. Trainers with Have Trunk Will Travel (HTWT), one of the last companies that provides elephants for the entertainment industry, were filmed by Animal Defenders International repeatedly shocking elephants with electric prods and beating them with bullhooks—cruel instruments resembling fireplace pokers that are designed for one purpose: to inflict pain and punishment on elephants. The official web site of Water for Elephants has the trailer for the movie. I have questions over the animal rights activists’ strategy, but I don’t doubt their commitment to truly helping the elephants. Travellers are looking more and more for customised, off-the-beaten track ‘experiences’. Keep boycotting! how the fuck do you sickos know how the elephant feels about being hit with sticks and given electric shock? Someday we’ll evolve as a society and see how depraved circuses, zoos, and marine parks can be behind the scenes. Yet no update on Tai and or Gary or Kari Johnson. How sad that we can’t exchange open dialogue without offending the groupies. 98 $M worldwide. Go volunteer at a shelter. Since we are JUST FANS and not funded by Fox or anyone except ourselves, we cannot afford to relocate our blog until it expires next January. Why? To those that have been venomous in their comments to the wonderful ladies that created this site, don’t let the door hit you in the…What you are doing is called verbal abuse. Elephants do not naturally perform circus tricks, nor should they ever be forced to. As did several other county fairs here. It was truly my honor to meet you at the premiere. And I distinctly remember telling my friends afterwards that at least in our time we do better by animals. I can only hope that something softens your heart and soul at some point on this earth. You can email us the contact information we should bill. This place also sells elephants to circuses and we all know the hell they go through there. I think it’s time for anyone feeling righteous anger to turn away from fan sites and focus their energies on constructive actions to ensure this type of abuse is stopped. Outrageous that they’ve gotten away with this abuse for so long. In response to Janiem’s post below…Have you been to the HTWT facilities? Who cares whether or not the video was edited? Have Trunk will Travel will rent their elephants out to do anything…weddings…stunts (I mentioned them painting Tai with paint that was later removed because it was considered toxic) but no one says anything. I can only speak for myself, and I will admit that I don’t know everything about all the things happening to animals or people for that matter around the world. Your reaction is the very reason why it wouldn’t matter when this video was released, even after watching these HTWT elephants being hit, hooked and shocked, you are finding excuses to deny it because it wasn’t released immediately. Pat Derby former TV and movie animal trainer and founder of the Performing Animal Welfare Society, Ark2000 elephant sanctuary: “The actions I viewed on this video could only be characterized as needless suffering and unnecessary cruelty. ... Have Trunk Will Travel, Inc. at 5/10/2011 02:02:00 PM. Tai the elephant from Have Trunk Will Travel having a ball in a pond.
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